1、维拉·法米加,弗莱迪·海默,麦克斯·泰瑞奥 主演的电影《贝茨旅馆第二季》来自哪个地区?
爱奇艺网友:电视剧《贝茨旅馆第二季》来自于美国地区。
2、《贝茨旅馆第二季》是什么时候上映/什么时候开播的?
本片于2014年在美国上映,《贝茨旅馆第二季》上映后赢得众多观众的喜爱,网友总评分高达1596分,《贝茨旅馆第二季》具体上映细节以及票房可以去百度百科查一查。
3、电视剧《贝茨旅馆第二季》值得观看吗?
《贝茨旅馆第二季》总评分1596。月点击量726次,是值得一看的欧美剧。
4、《贝茨旅馆第二季》都有哪些演员,什么时候上映的?
答:《贝茨旅馆第二季》是上映的欧美剧,由影星维拉·法米加,弗莱迪·海默,麦克斯·泰瑞奥主演。由导演Tucker,Gates携幕后团队制作。
5、《贝茨旅馆第二季》讲述的是什么故事?
答:欧美剧电视剧《贝茨旅馆第二季》是著名演员维拉· 代表作,《贝茨旅馆第二季》免费全集2014年在美国隆重上映,希望你能喜欢贝茨旅馆第二季电视剧,贝茨旅馆第二季剧情:#快讯 bates motel获得第二季续订#贝茨旅馆获得a&e电视台10集的第二季续订,本剧开播即成为电视台有史以来收视率最高的节目,获得预订也在情理之中
假期因为Freddie Highmore 在 The Good Doctor 中炸裂的演技,去看了他主演的 Bates Motel.
正好赶上长途旅行,我几乎是连着看了20集(一共5季,50集)。据说是希区柯克电影《惊魂记》(Psycho)的前传。 还挺好看的。讲一个青少年如何变成连环杀手的。
被算作是惊悚剧,并不真的惊悚。甚至有很多温情和怜悯,以及你能看见这残暴的背后,有多少超越一个人能承受的痛苦。
所以也没办法恨起这可怜的母亲,也无法恨起这可怜的儿子(……生活就是如此令人沮丧,恨谁最后都是虚无)。
我想讲的是,在第二十集的最后,当儿子发现自己正是杀人凶手之后想要自杀(不算剧透哦,从一开始你就知道他是个变态杀人狂,故事讲述的是,他究竟如何变成这样的?),他妈妈说你不能死,你死了我也得死;于是这个听话的儿子陷入了困境:
他要活下来保护母亲,但活下来就意味着要面对自己的残暴不堪……这怎么办呢?n
于是他给自己编造了一个故事,分裂出一个象征妈妈的人格,编织了一个谎言:人不是你杀的,是我杀的。你是无辜的。
带着这个信念,他可以继续生活下去了。后来这个妈妈的人格出来杀了很多人。
这就是精神分析的基本概念:防御机制。就是面对生活中那些我们无法处理的感受之时,我们怎么办呢?我们给自己编造一个故事,或者讲述一个道理。反正要让自己活下去,保护自己,用来处理这些非常艰难的情感体验。
所以我们看不清楚真相啊。一切都是为了活下去。
防御有很多种。今天讲一个和这个特别相关的。在Bates Motel里面呢,儿子把自己内心里面觉得自己坏的部分投射出去,投射给他杀死的女生:并不是我想要背叛妈妈去和她好,是她要勾引我,她不是好女孩儿,我要杀掉她们,这样就好像将自己内心的坏的部分杀掉了,这样我就是个好人了。
可是杀人也是坏的。特别坏。我怎么能是坏人呢?我不能是坏人。所以这时候就有了“分裂”。我将自己的一部分分裂出来:是象征妈妈的那个人格杀掉的别人,人不是我杀的。我还是好的。
你看24个比利中,比利也是那个最无知、懦弱、单纯的角色。其他的人格都是出来保护他的。
当然在这个剧里面是很极端的情况。但其实回到日常生活中是一样的心理过程。举个例子:
我很不喜欢自己胖,于是(我偏执地)在我的想象中,别人一定会不喜欢我。你看这个过程,苛刻其实来自于我自己,但是我把它投射在别人身上。
这样呢,就从“我觉得自己没有价值感”,变成了:都是你们不接纳我。你们是坏人,而我才是受害者。我很委屈。
这个过程你以为是别人在欺负你,但其实是一个人的独角戏。n
但如果更甚一步呢,我的意思是,如果一个人内心的煎熬感乘上100倍,这个煎熬太痛苦了。因此我要将这部分恨意分裂出去,然后把它消灭掉:我会变成一个特别正义之士,我要捍卫我胖的权利,你们统统是歧视,是对我的歧视,是对我这个人的否认,是对一个群体的伤害,是社会的不公!
我要把自己内在对于自己的仇恨,投注到别人身上。然后我要杀掉这个仇恨。
这样的状态下,一个人就再也看不见原属于自己的脆弱和恶意,统统变成对于别人的恨意。于是可以扛起“正确”的高旗,将其他人都踩在脚下。我是白莲花,而你们全是污泥。我做的一切都是“堂吉诃德”,不被人理解,你们都是坏人,而只有我是孤胆英雄。
这就是“偏执”啦。你看这里面全是“自恋”有关。令人感到难过的是,它变来变去却始终在问同一个问题:我到底值不值得你喜爱?我到底是不是个好人?
分裂从来不来自于外界,全由自己的内心而起,而为了扑灭这个分裂带来的痛苦,人可以不惜一切代价。
我常想,如果有一颗小药丸,吃了就能够满足自己的一切“自恋”的需要,我的意思是,吃了就能够确定地感受到,自己是被爱的、被接纳的,那么世界上就能够少很多“偏执妄想”……人类就能少很多悲剧,多很多幸福感吧。
(最后想说,我去看了Freddie Highmore这个小演员的一些访谈。他是伦敦人,标准英国口音,但是在他演的剧里面,都是纯正美国口音。演员真是敬业啊,了不起。)
【Season2 Episode 1】
「Welcome to the world, ladies! There are ax murderers and whores stuffed under every rug, so your kids better read up on it and get educated, because that's what life is! It's a cesspool you claw and scratch and fight to swim out of, but you never get to the top!」
【Season2 Episode 2】
『♫Vera Farmiga & Freddie Highmore — Mr. Sandman♫』
『♫Vera Farmiga — Maybe This Time♫』
【Season2 Episode 3】
「A lot of things seem like fate, and they're not.」
【Season2 Episode 4】
「There are things in life that have consequences, Norma. You're looking at one. I'm a consequence.
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No, you're not. You're not a consequence. You need to be strong. You need to put this behind you.
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I can't put this behind me. It's me. How can I put me behind me?」
【Season2 Episode 5】
「It's you and me, Norman. It's always been you and me, and we have to move on.」
【Season2 Episode 6】
「Go home, Mother. I'm not a little boy. You can't keep me locked up in our house for the rest of my life.」
【Season2 Episode 7】
「You saw him firsthand when he blackout. Did he hurt you? Did he hurt anyone? Was he angry or uncontrollable? No, right? He just wasn't himself, and there's no good reason that anyone should know that. 」
「You just told him, and he believed it, even though he doesn't know me? And I told you, and you know me better than anyone. And you didn't? And you still don't?」
「She said something happend to you in them. You change. They can make you do things.
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What? What happens to me?
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I don't know, but she knows, and you got to make her tell you, Norman, 'cause whatever it is, it scares the shit out of her.」
「You told her something happens to me when I blackout. You said I change, that I'm not myself. Who am I, mother? Who am I, and what do I do?
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Norman, I love you so much. And I did say those things. And they are true. But we are not gonna talk about them. You have to trust that I am protecting you, I know you better than anyone, because I'm not gonna answer you question, and I don't want your to ever ask me again!」
【Season2 Episode 8】
「Norman, we need to talk. I missed you.
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That's sort of silly. We just saw each other.
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Norman, stop it.
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Stop what?
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I know what you're doing?
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I watching a movie.
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Yeah, the movie that you said you'd seen a hundred times that I wanted to go to with you.
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Well, we have seen it a hundred times. I still enjoy it. Sometimes it's just nice to watch a movie alone, you know?
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You're being a dick about something that isn't my fault.
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I'm just watching a movie.
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Movie's over.
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That was childish.
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Norman, stop it. Stop. I don't like you this way.
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And what way is that?
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All distant, like you couldn't be bothered with me.
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You mean like I'm my owen person? Like we're different? Like I have secrets from you?
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Don't you walk away form me!
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You're being ridiculous.
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Am I? Norman, please.
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Oh, I see. The anger didn't work. Now the tears.
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Norman, you don't understand!
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No, I do understand! I understand that you're not who I thought you were. That we're not what I thought we were.
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Yes, we are. Nothing has changed.
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Everything has changed. You changed the rules.
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What rules? What are you talking about?
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I don't trust you anymore, and that changes everything. Okay, it's all up for grabs now. You no longer know who I am either, because we're different.
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What? Stop it. Stop. Stop it, Norman.
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It was all just a game. The game was that we were devoted to each other, and no one could ever come between us, that we loved each other more than anyone could ever love another person.
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But we do love each other.
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Do we? Do we really, Mother? I'm going to my room. Don't follow me. Leave me alone. You stay out here alone.」
【Season2 Episode 9】
「If I went by the letter of the law, this town would be boarded up.」
「Norman, I know you can't hear me right now, but if you ever do, just know that I love you. I love you more than anything on this earth or in heaven. Know that.」
「You want to know why you don't get me? Because you can't get me. You will never get me. You think you know what life is, That it's something you just stay on top of with your soft words and your nice summer jacket? You come from a whole world of people who are not real. You don't understand anything. You're just sleepwalking through life. You have no real troubles. You sit there in your little playhouses with your cocktails, and you judge the rest of us.」
【Season2 Episode 10】
「You're best mother in the world.
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I don't know, Norman. I hope so.
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You mean everything to me. I love you more than my own life.
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Me too.」
「I got three tickets. I want you to come.
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You bought me a ticket?
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I'm sorry, Dylan. I'm so sorry, for everything. For how you were born, how I handled it. How I shut you out... it was horrible of me. And I'm so sorry.
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It's not your falt, Norma. You were just a kid.
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I didn't know what I was doing, but as horrible as it was, I wouldn't trade it for anything, because you're here now, and you're beautiful, and you're a miracle, that someone like you could come out of all that. And I wouldn't give you up for anything.」
「I don't want him in an institution.
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He needs to be somewhere he can be protected. At least, someplace other people are protected. You need to know the truth.」
「Mother,
I made this little bird for you.
I will always love you an we will always be part of each other.
Norman」
「How can you ask me to live like this?
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Because I will die if you leave. I will, I'll die, Norman. We're like the same person. If you kill yourself, I'll be there one step after. We have to be together. We're supposed to be together. No matter what, I will be with you every step. I will be right by your side, and we will face this together. Please. Please. (Kiss)
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All right, Mother. You win.」
看完了最后一集还是觉得只有最后一集最靠谱……
我严重质疑前九集到底都讲了什么?
这一季从最开始四个主角都衍生出了分支:
norma认识了christine,和george滚了床单,混上了议员
norman认识了cody,滚了床单,杀了cody爸,杀了打酱油的norma哥
dylan认识了zane妹,滚了床单,和zane纠缠,最后又杀了黑老大
emma认识了卖大麻的小哥,滚了床单,跳水窒息后却不见踪影……
如果说上季结尾奸杀老师是主线的话
整个第二季用了九集半的篇幅展开了以上分支
最后关头又让所有酱油人物不了了之,死的死,消失的消失……
最后半集展现了norman精神分裂的本质。
衍生分支是美剧的一贯套路
但这剧里很多明明就是不合情理,bug丛丛好吧
感觉此剧就是卖着psycho的噱头,不过我是因为Max Thieriot才追的
估计下季应该不会追了吧……= =
第一季里面还挺喜欢迪伦的,第二季直接白眼狼了。艾玛也是。
第一季里,明明是迪伦渴望母爱,他总觉得诺玛和诺曼亲近,他想融入这个家庭。
第二季里,有一集说明,与第二任家暴男丈夫结婚期间,诺玛本来带着诺曼开车逃离家暴丈夫,因找不到迪伦,只能放弃逃跑而被丈夫逮到。被第二任丈夫用枪指着孩子,诺玛只能通过再一次遭受暴力去保护孩子。
也就是说诺玛为了迪伦,甚至放弃了和诺曼的逃跑。重新忍受家暴丈夫。
然后,迪伦和艾玛在一起了,圣诞树那一集迪伦对诺玛说:“我觉得他们2个是黑洞,总是想要把我拽入他们的破事。他们只会越过越糟。”
甚至临走之前,买个圣诞树聚一聚,迪伦和艾玛都要抱怨。然后直接离开了。
我直接呕吐了。拜托,人家本来买了旅馆带着小儿子过新生活,是迪伦非要跟过来,而且给了帮助。迪伦当初费尽心思想要获得母爱,事实上母亲也一直爱他,母子间也重新亲密起来。然后有了女朋友,直接把妈扔了???
就算艾玛做手术,陪了女朋友那么长一段时间,都打算搬家过新生活,而且知道母亲家里事情多,搬走之前都不回去看一眼?
而且,诺玛在家里为了钱和黑帮大佬恶斗。迪伦直接把钱全部给艾玛,手术2万5就够了,他给了5万。真是求母爱的好大儿子。
看到这一对,直接反感。特别是迪伦,找了女朋友过新生活没错,直接不要爸妈,看都不看一眼,剧情变化有点不合常理
诺曼也是,自己和假死小女友在一起的时候,不觉得伤害母亲,“我18了,我想和谁在一起都可以”。母亲好不容易有个好丈夫,他直接跑去提离婚,搞破坏(明明知道母亲喜欢警长)。
第一季里觉得有这2儿子就算没有丈夫也是欣慰的。第二季,“都什么白眼狼”,只看到艾玛为了家庭到处委屈求全和苦苦求人。
Jensen
变态这种人格都是幼年形成的,十几岁以后是成不了变态的。
真实情况是,他爸是个变态(家庭暴力,使劲打她妈)。
那有人说,他妈不也杀了家人吗?很简单,她妈正常,但她妈家人是变态,家人强奸她妈,她妈反抗才杀人的,但她妈是正常的,但因为她妈习惯了那种环境,所以才又嫁给了一个变态,就是他爸。
幼年时期,他的人格就是他爸塑造的,后来他杀了他爸后,因为他妈妈的影响,所以才一直没有犯病显露变态,但其实他就是变态,这个是幼年决定的。每次他变态杀完人后,都是在他妈妈的关怀和影响下,他为了不让妈妈失望,才隐藏了自己的真实人格,向着他妈妈希望的那样成为一个好孩子。
在他心中,他妈妈是完美的人,是好人,他不能让妈妈失望,所以要做个好人,虽然他本身是个变态(他很多时候意淫他的妈妈,只是他变态人格的正常反应,但他拼命抑制自己,希望忘了自己是个变态这个事实)。
但如果有一天,他对自己的妈妈失望时,就是发现她的妈妈也不是个好人时(事实上她妈妈也不是好人,但不是好人不等于是病人),也就是他认为他妈妈不再值得他去爱,不再需要再伪装自己时,他就会变成一个彻底的,不再顾忌的变态。
这才是真实情况,我是研究心理学的。
而这个是和电影版的不同的,电影版里边的妈妈是个变态,电视版中的妈妈是正常的。
很多人理解反了。其实电视剧中,他出现了人格分裂,分裂出了妈妈这个人格,但这个人格其实是好的,是在提醒自己做个好人。但这个人格,想要战胜自己本身的人格,就是变态人格是很难的,几乎是不可能的。除非他的妈妈是一个极其正直的人,他永远无法对妈妈失望,他就有可能战胜自己的变态人格,变成一个正常人。但很难,她妈妈没那么正直,只是他还小,不了解,有一天发现她妈妈的缺点后,就会彻底放弃改变,成为一个彻底的变态。